Sun Kagami on humanizing change around the inner self (podcast episode #8)

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In the eighth episode of Humanizing Change, host Ari Abraham talks with Sun Kagami, Founder of the Center for Deep Self Design, about connecting to the inner self as a way to meet change with calm, clarity, and openness. Sun shares how her early experiences with nature and her desire to break free from traditional expectations led her to help others rediscover themselves and detach from rigid outcomes.

Lessons from the episode:

• Reconnect with the inner self: I ground change by cultivating calm, self-awareness, and presence.
• Release rigid expectations: I build resilience by meeting life with openness instead of attachment.
• Draw strength from nature: I use solitude and natural spaces to deepen self-understanding.
• Break free from singular thinking: I stay flexible by avoiding rigid, one-dimensional mindsets.
• Calm inner turbulence: I focus on inner peace first to navigate external changes more clearly.

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Produced by Ari Abraham and Darrick Hays, with artwork by Chris Roettger.